The One-Armed Man

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Join Adam and Steve as they put on their investigation trenchcoats, pour a hot steaming cup of coffee, and dive into the world of Twin Peaks.

This week, they discuss the fifth episode of season one - The One-Armed Man. They talk about arson schemes, dream visions, and appropriate tattoos to get of your friends.

They continue to attempt to unravel the mystery, decipher the clues, and review the episode, which Adam has seen many times before and Steve has never seen in his life!

We'll be back next week and we’ll discuss the next episode of Twin Peaks - Cooper's Dreams.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Hey.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

I love how um uh directive the music is in Twin Peaks. How do you mean? Well, like so that last scene, which is obviously Josie Packard uh finding the domino. Yeah?

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Yeah, the letter with the go into our dominoes ad now.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

The letter with the domino from Hank. You know it's an evil letter as soon as she touches it. Yeah. Like it could just be any letter. Okay, yeah. But as soon as she picks up that one, the music goes and the phone rings. Oh fuck, evil letter.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Goes over to the phone.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Yeah, now how what?

SPEAKER_01 1:00

How would he have known exactly when she was opening the letter in order to call?

SPEAKER_00 1:06

He was waiting for the most dramatic moment possible and he just sensed it, I guess. He sensed it. And then obviously the Duchess of Angles as soon as the uh Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Now it's it's it's uh it's becoming increasingly uh difficult to figure out um uh where David Lynch's touch begins and ends, I think. Because I mean if you're like like I don't think David Lynch would ever use an angle like that. Right, okay. So that's that's kind of what I'm saying. So he didn't direct this. This is directed by Tim Hunter, okay. And it's written by Robert Engels, who's writ written bits of Twig before Twin Peaks before. Um so that means it's another one where David Lynch, unless you know what he sounds like, had less to do with, right? Right. Because he hasn't directed it, he hasn't written it, he's overseen it.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

When you say what he sounds like, you mean like his His voice. Yeah. Well Why would that make what else would I mean? Well like his visual approach or anything to I thought his like directive voice.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

No, no, no, no, no. I mean his actual voice, because you hear him in this episode. Do you? Yeah. He's Gordon Cole, he's Coop's supervisor.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Oh, yeah. Coop! Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

That's David Lynch. Okay, right. Yes. But if you don't know that that's his voice, I see where you got confused. You I meant his directorial voice. Yeah. Yeah, no, I didn't. But also I did. But you don't welcome to Welcome to Twin Peaks. It's uh uh Twin Peaks podcast for beginners. Is that what we started calling it? Yeah, why not? I'm Adam Scott Glasspool with me, is obviously you say you're no.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Oh, Steve Matthew, yeah. I was pointing at you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

I I wasn't sure what you're pointing at. Okay, cool. Uh we are, we are, obviously, we're covering episode four, um, which is the fifth episode of Twin Peaks on this, the sixth episode of our podcast. Yeah. Yeah. It's known as the One Armed Man. Yeah. Uh it was directed by Tim Hunter and written by Robert Engels, as I just said, but obviously obviously the the ser the series, the season, is uh is overseen by David Lynch and Mark Frost. Yeah. Um give me some listeners aren't to know this. Why would they? We've had a bit of a break. Yeah. We've had like three months off in between the this and the last episode. Um and uh so we watched a little recap stuff, we reread Synopsis, so we were up to date. Yeah. I'm not just saying this, I'm pretty sure I've never seen this episode before.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

I don't sort of said it halfway like through. And I'll and this is my like kind of thing about the episode. It is another one of those here's a little bit pushing the story along, yeah, and there's not a whole lot of vibe and anything like that. So it feels very much a bridging episode from one thing to another, potentially.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

That's interesting. I was gonna say that I felt like it was kind of hitting its peak a little bit, and that's not a not a Twin Peaks punt. It could be, though. It could be, it could be I'd thought about it before, I'd think. It could be, yeah. I thought not hitting its peak, not not not peak, hitting it, hitting its stride. Okay. I felt like it was really kind of very engaging and very, very quick paced. Yes, there's less of like the traffic lights and stuff like that, but I think they're bringing in some of the the more gentle small town weirdness, like the owls and the llama and stuff. But also, I wondered if one of the reasons that I found it particularly engaging this week is because I hadn't seen it. I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Well, this is the thing, is what I was gonna say. So, like Adam sort of said, Oh, I don't think I've ever seen this, and I thought you were trying to comment on like, well, not a lot, it's like really, or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Like David Lynch's directorial voice, like his directorial voice. We couldn't see this on TV in the night.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

And then and then we got to a section, Adam was like, No, genuinely, I don't think I've seen this.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

No memory of this episode whatsoever. Like, I thought you don't remember the llama, not really, like, yes, I do, but only because it's a pretty widely shared image from Twin Peaks, because obviously it would be because it's like, oh, weird. I I I had in my head that the first time you really meet Hank, and this is a spoiler for a couple of episodes time or next episode or something, yeah. Don't think it's too big a spoiler. I'm sure that the first time I properly met Hank was when he shows up to the double R Dino to work. Okay. I have no memory of the hearing process and the stuff that went on in this episode. And I don't know what's happened. And I won we made a joke out of the uh the weird numbering convention of the episodes. This obviously being the sixth episode of our podcast covering the fifth episode of Twin Peaks, which is called episode four. The one on man. Yeah, and I'm wondering if that did fuck me up. Yeah. Like like back like.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

But then you must have been like, oh, I've seen episode four, yeah, so I'll just go to the next, or something like that, where you've just gone.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

But I've watched this season three times. This is my fourth time through it. I haven't skipped it every single time.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Do you think your like limit of watching Twin Peaks episodes would have been like three episodes or something every time? So you watch them in a row, and then you've always stopped at the same point, and then you've always gone back and accidentally skipped an episode. There was a very good chance we did it this time, but actually three episodes. Because we had a three episodes, but that's four episodes. Because we've had a break. Because we've had a break, we were a bit worried about missing an episode or redoing one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:23

We were like, where did we get up to? It's a difficult question. Yes. It's a difficult question. Episode six five four. Yeah. What? Yes. This is episode six of the fifth episode of Twin Peaks, which is called episode four. What I'm at.

SPEAKER_00 6:36

Um so Hank is a new character for us, right? Although we knew. We knew of him.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

We just I don't think we'd seen him before. But yeah, that was that was just it struck me as weird. And so I wonder if um but there's no yeah, there's no way I've I've skipped it every time. But I do wonder if that was like a bit more engaging for me uh uh this time. Yeah. And I really enjoyed the episode, but I thought it was a really good blend of fun and you do get a lot of information dropped and lines drawn and dots connected in this episode, I think. Um which makes for quite a snappy sort of episode. But you're right, it's mi it it is missing the the darkness.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Yeah, and I think what I kind of meant by maybe a bridging of gap, there's a lot of there's not a lot of scenes, because it but there's a scene there's certain scenes where the guys in the police station are complaining about women while they shoot guns. Right. And like things like that, bits and pieces that again just kind of character development stuff. Yeah, yeah. But you're right though, also, a lot of the strands of the web are starting to kind of come together now.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Think of something else.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Lines of the web. So we can stick it with web. Uh the pieces are coming together a little bit, but a little bit. Like a puzzle. Like a puzzle, like a puzzle of a spider web.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Yeah, including the little bit of plastic, because that's like a bit of a puzzle. We've gone way out of order here. We've gone way out of order. Of course. Uh it was nice after a little break just to watch the opening credits again. Oh. Always. It's just always such a good vibe. Yeah. The music on the show is so good.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

We always get that bird at the beginning, and I know it's going to be a good time. The little Robin.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Yeah, the little Robin at the start, and then they start, you know, cutting into some wood, and you're like, fuck it, hell.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Yeah, actually.

SPEAKER_01 8:28

Yeah, show me a waterfall, and then there's a waterfall. And then there's a waterfall with the big hotel. And then obviously Michael Horse gets a little bit of a round of applause. Oh is. Just because we like the name. Yeah. You know, it's a good name. Yeah. Michael Horse. It makes me smile. Yeah. Um a strange uh subdued opening, I would say. Yeah. Um what's the scene? They're in the Palmer House and they're doing the sketch of Bob. Yes. Um from Sarah Palmer's vision of it. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Now he looked like an animal.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Who did?

SPEAKER_00 9:10

That's what she said.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Oh, right, okay. Oh well, that's interesting with the um Lama. Well, with the with the veterinarian connection. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I mean the I always I always sort of like I don't know if we've talked about this with Bob yet. We will just how he got involved in the show is quite funny. And so I always laugh about I always laugh when they're like, he looks so evil and disgusting and he's an animal. Right. Because um he's just like a crew member that was working on the set, yeah, and David Lynch was like, You look fucked up, man. Do you want to be in my show? You look fucking insane. Do you want to be like the main evil force in my show?

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Like what at what point did that happen before the show?

SPEAKER_01 10:01

Episode one, man. It was episode one. You know, you know I sent you that screenshot of how he's. And when you say episode one, I mean the pilot. Okay, good. You mean the pilot. Remember, I showed you that screenshot of um because you were like, look, to catch up, I'm gonna re-watch all the episodes that we've done so far. How did that go?

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Well, I didn't watch them all, so so I made the compromise. I didn't have time. So I made a compromise. I'll just watch the last episode, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Oh, okay. Yeah. So you re-watched Rest in Pain.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

That's what that was a plan, and then I sort of just read synopsis of the Wikipedia. Great. But then we did we did the catch-up, which didn't tell us a lot either.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Look, the point is, yeah, I when when I thought you were gonna rewatch it, I was like, look out for Bob in that pilot. Yes. Because he's in a little mirror uh behind uh Sarah Palmer at one point. That was an accident, right? That's not a piece of deliberate foreshadowing, right? He's just in that shot, and David Lynch liked it and also liked how so the way that Bob dresses is just the way that guy dresses, and David Lynch is like, You're fucking evil, man. You are fucking evil. You look like an animal. So every time someone goes, You look like an animal, I'm like, leave the fucking poor guy alone.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

That's great. So he saw that there was a little flash of a evil looking man, then he was like, I'm gonna make more flashes of the evil looking man appear.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah, man. And that's uh that's David Lynch's process. There's so much stuff that like happens accidentally or is a little ad lib or something, and he's like, I love that. We're gonna base the scene around it, or in this case, base the entire like show around it. Yeah, like that bit where uh Cube goes on uh Harry's nose. It's just like a little ad-libbed uh kind of moment. Um anyway, yes, they're drawing Bob. Yeah. Fucking spot on drawing. And he's an incredible artist. Yeah, the eyes weren't close enough. The eyes weren't close enough together, that is true. Yeah, uh Leland seems less than impressed about these visions.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

He's a bit he's he's he's looking in a bad way at this point.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Yeah, well, we learn later that he's utmost tonight listening to old music and crying. Yeah. And I'm like big mood. Big mood. So one of her visions. Yes, and that she's had two, and one is of the necklace and all of that stuff. He seems um he's not in this episode a lot.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

That's it, right?

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Uh he seems dismissive, I would say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

I think that is it. That is the only oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

We don't see loads of Sarah or Leland in this one. Yeah. We don't see loads of Maddy uh in this one, although she does have that important scene uh with James.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

In the diner. I'm using a lot of character names. Is that all right with you? I'm I'm with you. That's Laura's cousin that looks a lot like her because it's the same actress. Because it's the same actress, looks almost exactly like her, apart from the hair colour. Yeah, I do like that scene when James sees her, but we'll we'll get to that. Um we'll get to that.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Um obviously, you know, Donna knows where this necklace is. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 12:58

So she hears about it and she's gonna be like, she hears about it and she's like Well, she thinks she knows where it is.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

And now how how do you think the the golf ball trick is done?

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Uh it'll be a lot of palming, right? But how does it get in his mouth?

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Exactly. Twice in a row as well. Yeah, uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

I was I mean, it's a great opening shot because it just cuts to coop looking like dead down the centre. We talked about this on a other podcast or whatever, the the straight down the shell um the one point perspective the Kubrick, the Kubrick stare. He right in the middle staring right at you like unimpressed.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

So unimpressed by this magic trick that Jacobi is doing. Jacoby, Jacoby, Dr. Jacoby is doing in his fucking 3D aviators. He must have had them made special. Yeah. The guy is they really play him up to be one of the more irritating people in twin because I think and when he's illustrated by Hawaii because he loves he loves he's obsessed with Hawaii, isn't he? He's obsessed with Hawaii. Yeah. Um sorry, Hawaii. Hawaii. Uh, because his yeah, his eye he sees the map of Tibet uh and he goes, My interests also lie to the east. Yeah. I'm like, which how far east are we going? Singapore, Indonesia, Hawaii. Pretty sure that's west.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Isn't yeah, well, that's all the way around if you go east far enough. So far east.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

So when you say the far east to that to Dr. Jacobi, he thinks you mean Hawaii. Hawaii. Hawaii, sorry, yes. Yeah, yeah. Um, now they uh they have to do this kind of song and dance. And I don't know what the I don't know what the actual legalities of this are, because we're from England. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure that like if it's like a murder case, right? Yeah, then the doctor-patient confidentiality sort of goes out the window, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Yeah, if if there's like someone's life in danger or it like endangering. Well, I guess so. Other people's lives are in danger.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

We potentially have a serial killer as far as Cooper is concerned, right?

SPEAKER_00 15:05

So he's like, I'm not telling you what we talked about, right? Yeah. He's like, what are you hiding? He's like, I'm doing my own investigation that's gonna last my entire life.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

Actually, pretty kind of cool line, in my opinion. Like, I actually thought, right on, Dr. Jacoby. You go to Pebble Beach and find yourself.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

How how how's that kind of left? That's sort of it, isn't it? He's just kind of he said so he mentions a red Corvette.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yes, he followed a red Corvette but lost it in the in the woods, right? Um now when he's wearing these 3D Avias. Is it definitely a red Corvette?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Well, that was what I was thinking. I thought there was maybe gonna be a thing. Like we had his if he had one of his eyes closed, would it have not been a little bit? But it would have been a blue Corvette. Yeah. It was a white Corvette.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

It was blue or red. It's important that it's a red Corvette, obviously, though, because of that's what Leo drives, uh, which we already knew. Um but the so I guess it's an interesting scene actually, because it you're really not sure what to make of of Dr. Jacoby, I think. Um because he's like, I want to help. Is there some kind of I he uses hula, right? As like instead of dance. Oh yeah. Because he loves Hawaii. Is there some kind of hula we can do? Yeah. Uh around um around the doctor-patient confidentiality. So like he does give some answers to some stuff. Yeah. You know, she Laura was seeing him because she was troubled. He dances sorry, he hula's his way around whether or not the problems are of a sexual nature, with again a pretty actually kind of philosophical line, which is all of humanity's problems are of a sexual nature. And we both we both kind of nodded together. Yeah, right. Yeah. Um but when I think when the uh I think he's only willing to play that game up to a certain point. Right. Because when Cooper is like we have evidence that Laura Palmer had sex with three men the night that she died, were you one of them? He's just like, nope, no, I'm I'm out I'm not doing the dances anywhere. I'm like, no, I was not one of those dudes. Yeah. Um Which I don't know, that kind of tells me in terms of you know our investigation here that we're doing. That we are doing. Yeah. Me and you. Exactly. It will last the rest of our lives. Yeah. Um I think that kind of puts him on the No, I don't I don't know if he's a suspect or something.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

I think it's so 50-50 split in the middle because they are setting up him up so much to be this creep weirdo that like maybe is obsessed with her. Yeah. So like, oh big suspect. But also, on the other hand, he's just also giving off vibes of he's just a creep that was obsessed with her and didn't do anything nefarious. So I literally have no idea with this guy. Like maybe he's the biggest red and blue herring. Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Depends which eye he's got. Exactly, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, either way, he leaves. Uh they tell him to stick around. He tells him to hang loose with a little He does. I thought you might enjoy that. The little quote. I don't know why he does the little movement. He did.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

It's a it's the little finger and the thumb, and he's kind of doing a little shaka air quotes. Yeah, yeah, of course. And then but then he's doing like little crab claws anyway.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I didn't enjoy it, thanks. So I guess um I guess he's a suspect in some or at least a person of interest, because they're like, you've got to stick around. Yeah. Um and then this is where David Lynch comes in. Yes, of course. Uh Gordon Gordon Cole.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

And how I didn't recognise the voice, it's because it was distorted over the uh intercom, of course. Do you reckon?

SPEAKER_01 18:35

You reckon that's what it is. Yeah. So they uh they talk about Laura's autopsy uh and the little bit of plastic that was in her stomach, and the twine uh around her wrists not matching twine that they can find. Uh and also they talk about uh the altercation between um Harry and What do we think his name might be? Well I'm I'm struggling with Harry. No, you're not. That's an easy one to remember. Sheriff Harry S. Truman.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Yes, yeah, yeah. No, him him and the uh the the rude The rude man. The rude man that hate this podcast What the fuck is this? The one he punched onto Laura Palmer.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Yeah, we all know who he is. It's just when you watch like visual mediums, you don't constantly need people to be saying people's names. I knew who you meant. Yeah. Um we'll get back to it. Rosenfeld. Agent Rosenfeld is his name, Albert Rosenfeld. Uh look, Coop's still on Harry's side on this one. Hell yeah. They're rider by these these bookhouse boys. Oh fuck the fucking bookhouse boys. We didn't hear anything more about the bookhouse boys. But the boys are together, it's just Ed that's absent. Yeah. Because the boys are Deputy Hawke and Harry S. Truman, the sheriff. Yeah, yeah. And Ed, right? Those are the bookhouse boys. Of course. Oh, and James. We have no we had no big head in this. We had no big head, which is always a shame because we love we love to applaud when uh when when when he comes on. Um and that's when uh Cooper is also brought the sketch. You get so much information in this episode, actually, and it happens really quickly. Yes, he's brought the sketch of Bob and immediately just goes, That's the man I saw in my dream. Yeah, like no emotion or anything. It's just instantly just like that's the man I saw in my dream. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

Um that's where he says his eyes were closer together, though.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Yes, of course, of course, of course. And they are on the lookout for the one-armed man because of the dream that Agent Cooper had that had Bob and the one-armed man in. Yeah. And he talked about having a tattoo on his arm and they lived above a convenience store. Yeah. So Coop's very kind of like, I don't know what you made of this actually, but you are you are by this point conditioned to just unconditionally um trust Dale Cooper. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you're like, you're like, whatever you think is good for the investigation is is probably is probably right.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah. I mean, there is too many coincidences with his visions and all that sort of stuff. I guess, but also he's becoming quite one-track minded with it.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where he he is now like everywhere he goes, like when when they get to the vets and there's a convenience store there, and he's like, huh. Bob and Mike, the one-armed man, said they lived above a convenience store. Yeah. And um and I mean the whole the whole thing is like uh Deputy Hawke calls um after the meeting with Dr. Jacoby and says that they found the one armed man um in a motel. Uh and they charge into his room after obviously Andy has uh dropped his gun. Fucking. I'm sure there's some big moments in this moment. Nothing. Nothing. Really weird. Really weird. He really is. But he's also having, you know, he's having girl problems with Lucy. I know. So so you know, you can't be too hard on him. All-timer episode for Lucy as well, when she recounts invitation to love instead of what's been going on. It's very, very funny.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

And Harry's like, no, no, what's been happening here? Oh. Yeah, she's great. And then when she has to look for the uh the uh all the things, oh she's gotta look through the files.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

How will I know they've got birds? It will tell you in the files.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Okay, I'm gonna look through them now.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

So good. But yes, sorry, Cube has this one-track mind where he's like, This is the one-armed man. Have you ever like lived above a convenience store? Do you know this guy called Bob? Was there a tattoo on your arm? What did it say?

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:50

And what did we learn about the one-armed man?

SPEAKER_00 22:52

Um he was good friends with a man called Bob who's a vet. Yep. He had a tattoo on his arm that said Bob before he lost it. It said mum. Did he say mum? Mom. I thought he said Bob. No, no.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

Well that I was gonna say Huge misinterpretation of the evidence there.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

So in the dream, right, he said that he had a tattoo of like the devil on it, right? And then that's why he got it off and burnt it or something like that. That was what was said in the dream. Turns out that was his mum.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

It said mum and he was he lost his arm in a car crash. Yeah. Driving from Memphis, Tennessee. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything there. The devil went down to Memphis. Oh, hello. The idea of making deals at crossroads if you're driving out from Memphis. I don't know. I don't know if there is something there. Yeah, okay. But I don't imagine that was an accident.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

But he's this different character to what we expected, right? So we kind of saw He's a shoe salesman, man. He's a shoe salesman. Only sells right shoes because they're samples. But we see right shoes who has right shoes. Yeah, I know. But they uh the reason he came about, right, is because we saw he saw him in the hospital originally. So that's why they knew he existed, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Yes, although initially we saw him in Cooper's dream.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Right, and then he sees him and then they try and chase him.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Yes, I suppose this is why it's difficult to ever disagree with Cooper. Yes, because we've seen his dream and he looks exactly like that dude. Yeah. He looks exactly like the same guy. I think it might be the same actor. Do you reckon? Yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Oh, like uh Laura Palmer.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Well, exactly, and Maddie Ferguson. Yeah, yeah. Um I uh it's it's interesting because sometimes they'll cast the same actor to play different characters. But sometimes, I don't know if you've noticed this. Oh yeah, they'll cast the same actor to play the same character all the way through. Yeah, that's crazy. That happens a lot. Although, uh do you know what also it also happens, and I think it happens in Twin Peaks at some point. Yeah, they cast two actors to play the same character. Well, what? I think I think one of them gets recast at one point. Okay. Yeah, not in the show, I think for the movie Donna gets recast, which is a shame. Right. It's a shame because Donna's, you know, an important presence in the show. Not necessarily in this episode, but you know.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

But the one our man, who we all know the name of, uh Mike. Mike is Mike and Bob. Uh yeah, very different. We I don't know, you expect him to be a bit more uh nefarious or whatever, and he just sort of cries when he says mum, and he's very quite unassuming. Um why did you think he was crying when for you he said Bob? Well I thought then maybe there's a relationship with Bob that is his like his friend that he's you know, I don't know, something happened there.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

You thought he got a tattoo of the of the name of his mate who's a vet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Would you it's not a weirder thing, one of the weirder things that's happened in this. No, it's not, but I think in in that's true actually. Because when he like breaks down crying, it's like a weird cry as well. Like it's all very weird crying. Exactly. So I thought it was just like a real weird vibe. Like, and he's got this, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

I saw I saw a post the other day that was like uh the pilot of Twin Peaks, the first 20 minutes of it is just people screaming and crying, yeah, and it's one of the best things on television.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

I can get on board, that's great. Wouldn't do you not think it would be like if I got a tattoo with your name on it, yeah, would that not be odd to you? No, I think it'd be lovely. Really? Depends how close we were. We're pretty close. We talk every day. Well, that these years, that we're pretty close. We've known each other 25 years. That is insane. Uh if I got a Steve tattoo, yeah. Like a classic one, like one of the classic mum tattoos, and it was a heart with the like paper thing around it, an arrow through it, and it said Steve. Yeah. You'd think that was weird, as would everybody else.

SPEAKER_00 26:42

But maybe you didn't.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

And it's my tattoo, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Maybe you're just crying about the arm. Maybe you got it as a joke and then your arm came off, and then you're crying because your arm came off.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Yeah, that's true. Feel like we're getting hang up on the arm. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. In the same way that Coop does. Um, but there's something else going on at that same motel. Just across the way. This is the episode where I really realize that like everybody knows each other and is doing some kind of business deal with one another, and like everybody's involved in everybody's sleeping with everyone else. Yeah, because it's Catherine, whose name I've remembered this week, yeah, and Ben Horn in bed together again, not so subtly implying that they're gonna burn down the mill. Yeah. Real heavy. Remember the headline we'll read a very artful way of keeping us up to date, I thought. That was great. Yeah, I I do you know what? The the big gap between episodes made me really appreciate that it's written like a soap opera to remind you what is going on each week.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Yeah, I thought it was really cool. But it did that classic thing of like you think the door's gonna get knocked down of the room that they're in. Uh, and then because you hear the gun go off and then they like they look out the window and they're like, Oh, it's over the road. Well, just let me know if there's any bloodshed.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Do you want to talk about how Mike is staying in room 101?

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Uh is it that's another word for hell, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Kind of. It's it's it's the room from 1984 where all of your worst fears are supposed to be held. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

That's what the TV show is named after.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Room 101, indeed. That wouldn't mean anything to our American listeners. Of course not. Yeah. Or anybody that didn't watch.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

It was a panel show where celebrities would come on and they would banish things they didn't like into room 101.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Who hosted that?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

It was uh the guy Frank Skinner from uh Was it actually? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Oh, I don't remember Frank Skinner hosting it. Yeah. I remember someone else hosting it, but I don't remember who that is either. Do you remember when Anne Whiticum put into room 101 The Welsh? Oh okay. That caused a bit of backlash at the time. That's interesting, isn't it? Is it on anymore? I don't think so. I think they rebooted it at one point, but it became even more of like a shit British panel show. Right. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 28:51

It was like another excuse for comedians to do bits.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Yeah, did you see they brought back Mock the Week? Yeah, on some unknown channel, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:59

On some channel that what was like Challenge Quest or something like that. Is that what it is? It's something like that as well.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

I assumed it was just back on Dave. No, not even Dave's stuff up the money for mock the week. Some digital channel. Is Dave still going? Can't be, can it? I don't know. It can't survive on only top gear repeats.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

It can only survive in repeats because everything's constantly in the past. What it had that what?

SPEAKER_01 29:25

It had that uh fake uh Taskmaster show for a little while hosted by David Mitchell, but it was all like camping stuff. Oh. Yeah, which is weird because David Mitchell seems like an obvious fit for Taskmaster, but he's never been on it.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

No, but also he's a good fit for Dave. Why? That's his name. That's a really good point.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

If I got a tattoo uh that was the heart with an arrow through it and a little bit of paper and it said Dave, and you knew it meant the TV channel, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

How would you feel about that? Well, if I had a matching one but it had Dave Jarvu, which is the Dave Plus one plus one.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Yeah, that is good actually.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

That is good.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Anyway, Catherine, Ben Horn, they're just kind of reaffirming.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

We are definitely having an affair and planning to ban Dundasaw Miller.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

And she's cooked the books but hidden one from Josie because Josie thought she was on to Catherine. It was quite good for us to be fair after a few months off. Really helpful. Thank you for that. And then obviously he says he's gonna take his little Elvis toy for a bath. Yeah, what? Not really sure what that's about. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

Because genuinely things will come up, and I'm like, I bet it's me being thick.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Ben Horn's a weird guy, yeah. Uh, and you will learn that, especially in season two, where he has a whole character arc where he thinks he's a US general in the Civil War. Okay. Season two is really weird, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um but uh one thing that does um obviously happen is he drops a poker chip that uh Catherine picks up and it says one-eyed jacks on it. And I don't know if that is for her or for us. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Because it's important that we recognise that later on. Yes, of course, because that comes up. We know he's been there. We had that scene with him and his brother.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

He owns it, my guy.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

He owns it.

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. It's his department store through which the young girls are recruited into prostitution. Of course. Yeah, absolutely. Horrible, horrible stuff, horrible stuff.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Yeah, but I don't know if it matters that she sees that or not. You're you're right. I think that might have been for us. I think that might have been for us. I'll tell you what, there's a good clue that it might be for us. She showed it to the camera.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

Well, yeah. I mean, we don't see any of the stuff that's not shown to the camera, I guess. That's a really good point. Really good point, actually. I suppose, yeah, if the camera if we're able to see it, yeah, that's deliberate. Do you reckon? Yeah, I think so. Well, we weren't supposed to see Bob. That's true, but now we are retroactively. Yeah, it's an interesting part of the process, that. Yeah. Um the Where do we go from there? Josie Packard is spying on them. So she's on to Catherine being onto her, but I don't know if Catherine knows. I don't know if Catherine is on to Josie being on to Catherine being onto her. Yes. Yeah, we're not sure. We're not sure at that point. Um, and then you have right, so I've already mentioned the Hank stuff, which I you know, I just have absolutely no memory of at all.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

So uh we we get introduced to him, it's like a hearing, right? That about he's gonna be potentially released in prison. Yeah. Um Norma's there is there, yeah, yeah. And says kind of like, yeah, he's gonna be living with me and maybe gonna get a job at the diner.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

And then as soon as that is revealed, the vibe totally shifts. Yeah. Like I sort of half believed him when he was like saying to her, like, no, I've changed. Yeah, and you know, I'd be like, Okay, there'll be some drama in how that pans out. And there's just not, because as soon as she confirms that he can have a job, yeah, his whole vibe just shifts and he starts really staring at people and being evil.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

And then we get introduced to his domino with the two threes. Yeah, and he kind of later on it's a different domino.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

I don't know if you noticed that. I thought it was two threes both times, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 33:09

I think it was a three and a two the second time we see it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, when he oh god when because yeah, we get the domino, we get the domino, then we get some music, and as he leaves, he just looks and goes, catch you later. That's not something you say to your wife that you're like yeah, anyway. So it's not really. I got a feeling he's not a great guy.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

He seems like a bad guy. Um which which obviously links up with uh her name's Shelly, right? Shelly and Bobby. Is it Shelly? Yes. Yes, yes, because uh that you know, um Norma and Shelly have a bit of a heart to heart in the diner about how they've got four guys between them and don't know what to do with either one of them. Yeah, yeah. Um another thing of like everyone's doing everyone, everyone's doing everyone, everyone's involved in everybody's business, it's small town politics. Um obviously uh there's that scene between Bobby and Shelly where Shelly gives him the shirt. Blood. Blood. Blood Blood Dylan. Blood Dylan, yes. I was doing I was trying to do Dracula, but it did come out as Bob Dylan, which is a shame. They did drink mine, the children of the name, what music they make, and then Hamaker. That was Bora. Anyway, it doesn't matter. My wife. Um Bora Dylan. I I like that they they paired the heart to heart with n between Norma and Shelly immediately after it's the scene immediately after the heart to heart between the four guys shooting guns in the basement of the sheriff's uh the sheriff's office. Yeah, which was which I thought was really interesting. You learn a little bit more about Cooper. That that he he loved and lost. Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Yeah. And that he's an incredible marksman. Yeah. And then I had an issue with the intercom and they're being able to talk back to her.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

You get to intercom's a two-way, man. But it's just a yeah, I guess so. But it's up on the ceiling. Yeah. Well, that's what you know, that's where the speaker is. You don't know where the microphone is.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

People can't see me pointing to the one in front of me. Yeah, you're pointing to the phone. And I'll be honest, if it was visual, it's still not very good. So, yes, we get that.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

You can you can tell that that wasn't a good joke or important because the listeners couldn't see it. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

It has to be on camera.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

It's gotta be on camera if you're gonna do shit like that, my guy. Oh yeah. Uh I've got a new voicemail from O2. Okay, should we listen to them? Listen, yeah, I don't think so. I think it'll be a sales call. I think it'll just be a sales call. Um, yes, I liked the pairing of those two heart-to-heart moments. Yeah. Uh I thought that was a clever little bit of versus.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

The men bonding a little bit about women and the women bonding a little bit about men.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

Yeah. Which which I I found was interesting because there's that whole thing about like uh the the supposition from the men is just that like, wow, women are just completely different. You know, when in in the grand design of things, women were cut like from a different blueprint, I think is what Cooper says. And then it cuts to the women having like pretty much just exactly the same problem as the men. Yeah, which I think is really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Kind of, I mean, not really, because Shelley's sort of uh complaining that well not complaining is the wrong word, but talking about how she gets beaten. So actually, I think not quite the same.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Uh yeah, Leo doesn't talk, he hits. Yeah, it's rough.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

It's like it's such an odd thing of a show, isn't it? Where you get I mean, we've talked about this a ton. It's so funny one second. Because the it's a bit jovial with the men, and then it's hard cut. Yeah. Always to something quite dark. Quite grim. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Yeah, absolutely. Um one thing that uh earlier in the episode Gordon Cole had revealed uh was that uh the marks on Laura's shoulder were bird bites. Uh and what now that the one armed man has revealed that Bob is a local veteran veterinarian, yeah, uh the sheriffs the book the bookhouse boys and Andy make their way over to the local vets where where where Bob works. Bob Lideck, Dr.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Lideck, yes, but also interestingly the one armed man who's called Mike. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Uh not to be confused with the character who's called Mike who who goes to the high school.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

So we will just call him the one-armed man. I think we should fame in the episode. Yeah. But he gets showed the picture, right? And he says that's not him. Yeah, that's right. And then we get that again in a sec, don't we? We at the vet at the veterinarians.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

However, everything else is pointing towards us is him, apart from this photo, right? Right.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

This picture that's and they seize the files, they go looking for birds, they find a Waldo.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

Now hold on, you missed a llama. There's a llama. Done. His expression is amazing because it comes face to face with Coop and he doesn't fucking flinch. No, he doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

David flinch? I'm gonna allow it. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

It's a wonderful piece of sound design, is what it is. Yeah. Because the moment that they lock eyes, the lama goes. Yeah, yeah. Which I think is fantastic. Coop doesn't break his strides. Of course not. Uh one of those fun little I've got another notification for a new voicemail. Oh, lovely. They're hounding you. Uh am I on call at my job? I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

From from the O2.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

No, no, when you get when you get a notification like that, it's just from your provider, isn't it? I'm just with O2. Oh, right. Do you get oh okay? I don't get like a voicemail from like who it is or something. Oh, I just have like miss call voicemail, and then like Yeah, I don't have any missed calls, it's just just a voicemail. Oh yeah. Which is what tells me it's a sales. Okay, good. It's fine with this one.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

So um we are look we're looking for birds now, and Lucy is looking for all the birds. So she's got all the cards together, and they're going through, and we find, yes, there is a not a parakeet. It is a minor bird. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Spell it. M I N O R. No. E M Y N A.

SPEAKER_01 39:18

A minor bird. Oh. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. Um I always thought that it was uh down the mines like a canary. Yes, I thought it was a slang for a canary. Yeah. It's not. It's a completely different kind of bird. Uh Andy finds Waldo, the minor bird. Yeah. And who does it belong to? Bob. Nope. It belongs to Jacques Renault.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

Who was the middleman for the drug dealing that we were talking about last episode? And as mentioned uh between Shelley and Bobby, though Jacques was brought up then.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Yes, because he works with Leo. Yeah. And so when the when Coop and Harry and the rest of the police department get to Jacques Renault's apartment, who's who's actually there? Bobby. Exactly. He's planting Leo Johnson's shirt at Jacques Renault's apartment to force the connection that he knows there is that perhaps, you know, would have been less explicit if he hadn't just left the bl the bloodied shirt there.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

This is where you went. I've never seen this episode before. Yeah, pretty much I don't remember any of this.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

But Bobby does escape, doesn't he? He does escape before they see him. Which, you know, I dangerous game, isn't it? To be, you know, sneaking around behind the back of a police investigation. That's that's tricky stuff. That is tricky stuff. Uh at the same time, Leo Johnson is meeting with Ben Horn. Yeah. Um and they are discussing I basically he's hired Leo to burn down the mill. Yes. Is what it is. Uh and he's also killed Bernard Renault.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

And he's wrapped up in a bag.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

Yeah, he's he's starting to tidy up some loose ends. Yes. I would say. Yeah. Especially with all the heat around Laura's murder.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

Um same place he meets in the woods for the drug deals as well. His big red car. Is it the same place? It seems like it, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:11

I don't think that was near a river. Oh, that's true, of course. That's because Mike met him, didn't he? Not the one armed man. No. Bobby's friend, Mike. Of course. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Remind me of the man that uh Leo is meeting in the woods, name of his Ben Horn. Yeah. Just opens a cigar, tosses the cellophane on the floor, bites the end off his cigar, spits that back out basically on the body. Like I mean, it's just evidence everywhere. I'm sure it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 41:38

If that becomes a grind scene. Evidence best 1995 or whenever it was released. 1990. This is early 1990, which is incredible to me. Looking at how this is lit for TV and shot for TV. I mean, that shot with the split diopter is something. That's not something you see on TV a lot outside of maybe Mission Impossible or Columbo.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

They don't do the things like that anymore.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

They don't make up like they used to. They just don't, man. They just don't. Um what else happened? Bobby gets away at the RR diner. Obviously, James meets Maddy for the first time. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Who's Laura's identical cousin? He hangs up his call, which I always have a problem with in TV shows. She's like, bye. He's like, he just hangs up. Anyway. Um but then he goes over to her. It's the only thing I've Sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

Nobody's ever talked about how people in films and TV just don't say goodbye.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

And then it's the first time it's been mentioned. Yeah. Um crack that all. But obviously he's distracted because he's what? Wait, he has he's distracted because um obviously she looks exactly like Laura Palmer. Yeah. Now he approaches her and he just goes, Who are you? Which is great. Yeah, that's that's a crazy way to introduce herself to the other. But I think she is immediately well, she knows that people will think she looks like her, so she's quite just on board to just chat to James.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

I I was once at a party, uh, and obviously we have a mutual friend who's moved to Canada. Yeah, of course. Uh and I saw him at a party. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

And I went, What the fuck are you doing here? Oh no, I remember this.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Yeah. And he went, What? Yeah. I was like, Aren't we supposed to be in Canada? And he's like, No, that's my brother. They look exactly the same. So I did just walk up to a stranger and go, What the fuck are you doing? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

What are you doing here? Um, yeah, that must have been quite alarming. Uh lovely. Did you speak to them any little more than that?

SPEAKER_01 43:46

Okay, still not the why to talk about the tea.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

That's more.

SPEAKER_01 43:50

Yeah. Oh, wow. Uh you know, it's just the lifestyle I lead. You haven't been invited to any more after that incident. No, but no, because I keep walking up to people asking what the fuck they're doing there. Um The host. There's a this is my house. Yeah. Uh there's there's a bunch of schemes going on, isn't there? Of course. There's a bunch of schemes. Am I right in thinking that the James is hanging up the phone because he was talking to Donna and they were talking about needing to go and get the necklace back, of course, right? Yes. Um, and at the same time, what's the other scheme that's going on? Audrey has talked to her dad, Ben Horn, and said she'd like to be more involved in the family business of running the hotel and department store and all of that stuff. She's not really interested in becoming part of the family again. She she has a crush on Dale Cooper and thinks that if she helps him with the case, then he'll fall in love with her. Yeah, exactly. Ignoring the fact that he's in his early 30s and she's a teenager. Yeah. We ignore that, then it's a foolproof plan.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

I mean, it makes sense in her head. It's where if you know if Coop kind of goes through, then we need to have a have a word. It was it was the nineties. It was the early nineties. In the show. Um yes, of course. Uh but we obviously you know she talks about working in the department store, which we know is the avenue that he recruits women to be uh uh sex workers. Yes. But he's quite really on board with it.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Yes. I wonder if he really knows that that's the route. You know, okay. That always seemed uh to me to be something that uh maybe the bar the the like the the people who uh are more directly involved in the running of one eye jacks would be involved in rather than Ben Horn. I don't know what his level of knowledge is there. Right. Yeah. My thinking process on my thought process on that is that like he obviously wouldn't be on board with it if uh he knew.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Well exactly, but he's also a piece of shit. He is also a piece of shit. So yes, but I guess it's more just like actually reality, he's just like quite happy that maybe oh she might maybe she I'm gonna get to know my daughter again or whatever. Yeah. Um, but she's not using it like that because she knows he's a piece of shit, but actually she just wants to uh do some investigating.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

Is he in the mix for you, Ben Horn, in terms of like maybe a suspect of of offering? I think indirectly. Yeah. Kind of more on the Bobby kind of side of things of like everyone's complicit, you know?

SPEAKER_00 46:23

Yeah, but uh kind of.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

There's a little bit of guilt in in all of the suspects here, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Yeah, some more than others. I think Leo is obviously still quite an obvious thing. Yeah. Yeah. Um because that's set up, isn't it? The that that scheme.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Yeah. Oh, there's so many schemes. You've got oh and so you've got Leo's gonna burn down the the sawmill. Yep, you've got Audrey's going to work at the department store, uh, and you've got uh James and Donna turning up and realizing yeah that the necklace is no longer there. So how could Sarah Palmer have known that? Well, she's always been a bit spooky.

SPEAKER_00 47:01

Like Mulder.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

I think they say like Laura rather than like Mulder. Okay, from because that's a TV show that hadn't sort of actually come out yet.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

But you but hey.

SPEAKER_01 47:11

They do see an owl.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

You can really see the influence of the X-Files, they can't. Oh, for sure. Like sorry, no, the influence on the X, yes, of course.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, they they have that, and then any scene between those two is just like oh uh anyway. Well, but see, I love Donna, I think Donna's a really interesting character.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

And it is yeah, I saw a post the other day that was something like, okay, so maybe this guy's not the best actor, but is he playing a compelling character? No. But is he sort of like attractive? No. But does he have interesting storylines? No.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

He sucks anything out of the scene. Uh but yes, they find there's no necklace there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:52

Um and then where does the where does the episode kind of Well Josie uh agrees to do the tag team fishing event with, doesn't it? Yeah, no, well, no, it's more. She opens the evil letter. The evil letter. She gets a call from Hank saying something about Did you get my letter? Yeah. So I don't actually know what the relationship between those two is at the moment. We'll find out. Uh, sucks on the domino a couple of times. He does, he sucks the domino. Woohoo!

SPEAKER_03 48:20

Lovely.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

We've come back round. So, yeah, in that case, that's the end of this episode. Yeah. The the sixth episode of our podcast focusing on the fifth episode of Twin Peaks, which is called episode four. But we're gonna call it the one armed man. Um Steve. Adam. Who killed Laura Palmer? Leo. Okay, we're still on we're still on Leo. I don't think he's a good guy. I would agree with I've got a feeling. And we know he's we know he's a murderer now.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

Yeah. Okay, interesting, interesting. All right, well, join us next week. Maybe we'll find out who killed Laura Palmer next week. And it's the end of it. We don't know. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I will say you don't find out who the killer is in the last episode of the show. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll tell you that right now. Uh it the the the show broadly outstays its welcome, I would say. Interesting. In the in the second series, which I think like this podcast? Yeah, a little bit like this podcast, especially this episode of this podcast. Uh, we should go. Um, you can find us on the socials. Um, we don't we just say sort of say goodbye, don't we? I think so. Um after three. And we'll and we'll should we sing the goodbye song?

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Yes. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. All right. See you next week. Bye.